My thoughts after watching an interview with Donald Trump

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I watched part of an interview with Donald Trump the other day on All In. He said, as he is wont to do, that the Mexican government is exiling criminals to the US, like what England did in olden days to Australia or something. People have tried to fact check this comment by saying that immigrants in the US don’t commit more crimes than citizens. However, that’s not exactly what he’s saying, and you can’t fact check crazy.

For Donald Trump’s next trick, he thinks a fence or wall should be built around the border. The interview asked him how it would be paid for, and he said Mexico will pay for it. Donald Trump will use his powers of persuasion to convince them to pay for and build a fence.

This is batcrap crazy.

Let’s assume that a. Mexico exiles its criminals in the US is true. If that is true, how can b. Mexico will pay for a border fence also be true? Assuming that they want to send all their criminals to the US, why would they PAY MONEY to stop doing that? Also, if Donald Trump has such powers of persuasion, then he can just get them to stop sending their criminals (since the fence implies that Mexico will stop sending us their criminals). So then why would we need the fence?

Donald Trump’s logic makes my head explode.

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6 Responses to My thoughts after watching an interview with Donald Trump

  1. Ryan says:

    For Donald Trump’s next trick, he thinks a fence or wall should be built around the border. The interview asked him how it would be paid for, and he said Mexico will pay for it. Donald Trump will use his powers of persuasion to convince them to pay for and build a fence.

    This is how a substantial number of conservatives seem to think negotiation works: they demand what they want and they get it, even without any concessions of their own. Therefore, whenever Obama fails to get something that they want out of a negotiation, they conclude that he has failed. And when one of their own acts tough and promises everything, they believe him.

    • emmawolf says:

      I would say that sounds like toddler logic, but my kid was very well behaved as a toddler and never behaved like that.

      A conservative relative of mine (who doesn’t see Donald Trump’s statements as a paradox) said that sanctions are the solution. I can’t imagine what sort of sanctions would be imposed to stop the Mexican government from covertly doing what they want to do be doing (we saw how well they worked for Iran, amirite?), but my guess is that it would require Donald Trump to move his clothing factories out of Mexico.

      • Ryan says:

        Don’t be silly. As CEOOTUS, Trump would make a special exception for himself. After all, it’s not his problem, so why should he suffer for it? It’s not like he can open those factories in the US. It would be un-American to not maximize profits.

        Anyway, the idea that we should impose sanctions on Mexico implies that Mexico really is sending people across the border, as Trump has claimed. Framing it that way appeases the conservative base by shifting the blame: rather than take responsibility for, say, our own businesses that illegally hire these immigrants, we accuse Mexico so that we get to feel like Mexico should solve our problem for us. This allows Trump to avoid having to provide an actual plan. And if he fails to get Mexico to build that fence, he can just continue to blame Mexico for doing wrong by us and perhaps blame liberals for not backing him in the “negotiations.” As long as the base has something to be angry about and someone else to blame, it’s content. It’s not known as the Party of No for no reason.

        Of course, even if Trump is right about Mexico and even if he could convince it to build a fence for the US, a significant problem would remain: building the fence doesn’t eliminate the desire to send criminals across the border. In fact, allowing Mexico to design and build the fence would only lead to intentional weaknesses in the fence or alternative (e.g. underground) routes for its criminals, assuming it were really committed to getting rid of them. It would be like asking the fox to design and build the henhouse. One can’t expect a Wayward Pines fence.

        • emmawolf says:

          building the fence doesn’t eliminate the desire to send criminals across the border

          Exactly! That’s why I think he’s nuts!

          (Not that I agree with any of his nonsense, but I think the idea might be that Mexico would pay for it and the US would build it with their money, not that they would design and build it.)

        • Ryan says:

          So it’s even sillier in terms of plausibility. They won’t design or build it themselves; they’ll just hand over billions of dollars.

          I just remembered that Penn & Teller: Bullshit! did an episode on this and found that a previously proposed fence design (and one already used) was very easily scaled OR dismantled despite taking a lot of effort to construct. I don’t know how current designs would withstand these approaches, but I can’t imagine that they would do much better. Without people with guns to cover the entire border, which is especially impractical because of our country’s size, there’s no stopping those who are serious about coming here.

  2. Terri says:

    Hi! May I please quote you (“you can’t fact check crazy…. Donald Trump’s logic makes my head explode”) on my page of Trump-related quotes at http://www.quotegarden.com/trump-administration-2017.html? And if yes, shall I attribute Emma Wolf or how would you prefer the attribution? Thanks for your consideration!

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